Buying US stocks? Know these SECRETS first
Intro
Convert Facebook, Tesla and Amazon stock prices in INR and see
People don't have portfolios as big as the price of 1 stock.
Now the question that comes is
If the broker runs away with the stock, what do you do?
It would have been fine if it wasn't for this big problem.
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Investing in US stocks has its own benefits.
But the losses are great too.
So do you invest or not?
If you want to then all those charges that are levied
And how you circumvent them
And most importantly,
There are a few "hidden" things
That you need to know about before investing.
Welcome, to the channel.
This is Money-Minded Mandeep.
Let's begin.
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Why direct US stocks?
The first question is, why do we need to buy US stock?
A few days back, I told you about International Mutual Funds,
I didn't like many options.
But I liked some options
Because the charges and taxes are both less.
So the simple answer to this question is
For most retail investors,
Mutual Funds are sufficient.
But this does not mean
That US stocks are not beneficial.
The first benefit is ETF.
You see, US stocks are just an excuse
The real reason is to buy ETFs.
So ETFs are Exchange Traded Funds
They are similar to Mutual Funds.
They also have basket of stocks
Or a basket of other securities.
But there are a few differences.
Mutual fund units are not traded on the stock exchange.
But ETF units are traded on the stock exchange.
And because there isn't a lot of participation here,
So ETFs have an issue of liquidities.
So chances are even if you buy them,
There may be a problem in re-selling them.
But in the US,
Along with passively managed ETFs
There are actively managed ETFs as well.
These can be of different types.
You will find sectoral ETFs,
Tech ETF, Pharma ETF, FMCG ETF,
And you will find ETFs on different themes as well.
For example, ESG ETF
And because participation is more there
There is not much of a problem with liquidity.
If you look at some popular US ETFs
Their daily volume is very high.
That suggests, there will not be a liquidity issue here.
So my personal opinion is
These fan companies which have a lot of hype today,
I can find better investment opportunities
In relatively smaller companies.
But the biggest challenge is
That it is a foreign country,
The market operates differently.
Their political and social conditions are different.
And there are many other companies
Whose names I've never heard before.
It's better if I analyse a sector
Or pick a theme
And take ETFs based on that.
If it is a passively managed ETF
Then it will track an Index.
If it is an actively managed ETF,
Then the burden of selecting a company is not on my shoulders,
It falls on the Fund Manager.
And because the maintenance cost of ETF is very low
Its Expense Ratio is much less than Mutual Funds.
Second Reason.
If you want to make your own portfolio,
Which can be risky.
But if you wish to make one, you can.
So you should have a US stocks account.
Pros of US stocks
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I would like to talk about the advantages
And if you already knows this
Maybe you've seen the previous video
Then you can skip through the timeline,
and go to the next chapter.
The first advantage is Global Diversification.
I gave you an example of this the last time too.
A few months ago, the Chinese stock market crashed badly.
But the Indian and US market didn't crash because of it.
What I mean to say is
Because of one country's single event,
If their stock market falls
It is not necessary markets of other countries fall too.
So if you globally diversify your funds,
Then the country risk reduces a little.
Second advantage.
Opportunity to invest in global leaders.
Because let's face it,
The global leaders
None of them is listed on the Indian Stock Exchange.
One more advantage is Currency Depreciation.
Because when you invest in US stocks,
You invest in the company and the US Dollar as well.
So even after holding your stock for five years
If you sold your $100 stock for $100, at 0% profit
Because when you were buying it
The dollar could have been ₹70
And when you are selling it and bringing money to India,
The dollar could be ₹80.
There are a few ifs and buts in this logic,
Which I told you the last time.
It is not necessary that
The dollar will keep increasing by 4-5% against the rupee every year.
So if you are only fascinated because of this reason,
Then your priorities are wrong.
If you are buying a stock or an ETF
That means you are investing in a business.
Priority number one should be
That the business grows
And not to make the US dollar grow.
This currency depreciation advantage
You can consider it as secondary.
Cons of US stocks?
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These were the advantages, there are many disadvantages too.
The firs one is
You will stay in India
And keep track of the US economic and political conditions.
Study its market and stay updated at all times.
Which can be a very daunting task.
The second disadvantage,
Everybody knows the fan companies
If you are going to study less popular companies,
Then their fundamental analysis
Keeping track of the management
Finding a good company in the first place
All of this will be a daunting task as well.
Next disadvantage is taxes.
Now this is different from mutual funds.
If you sell the US stocks before 2 years,
It makes for Short-term capital gain
All of which will be added to your income
And you will have to pay tax according to the slab.
So if you come under the 30% slab,
Then you have to pay 30% income tax.
But if you hold it for two years and then sell
It becomes a long-term capital gain.
You have to pay a 20% tax on this as well.
After indexation.
This tax is 10% in Indian equities.
Where you don't have to pay tax on the first ₹1 profit.
So if you are going to invest in US stocks,
You have to pay double the taxes.
This tax rule is an Indian Tax rule.
You have to pay it to the Indian government
Not the US government.
Because the Double Tax Avoidance Agreement,
DTAA, has been signed by both countries.
Because of this, you have to pay tax twice.
This was only about capital gain
If you hold shares,
You will get a dividend too.
So the dividend income
You will get money after 25% tax is cut on it.
You can think of this as TDS.
The US broker will cut this 25% tax.
But the speciality of TDS is that
When you file your ITR
You can claim that TDS.
You won't have to pay double tax
And if your total tax payable
Is lesser than that amount,
Then you will get the extra money back as well.
Now, the final disadvantage.
Which is no longer there are the charges.
This was such a dealbreaker
That until today, I never made a video on US stocks.
Because I personally found it senseless
To make investments this way
Or recommend you to do it.
Who can Invest?
Before I tell you the logic behind the charges,
I have an important question.
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Wo should invest in US stocks?
Or who can?
One who knows all the pros and cons I told you about.
Who is ready to invest a substantial amount.
Because for ₹10,000 or ₹20,000 or ₹50,000
You shouldn't take so much pain.
It is not like you are thinking of not investing in India
And invest everything in US.
The fact of the matter is
Understanding Indian companies,
Finding them, researching them
Is way easier than studying US companies.
And more importantly,
You will find more opportunities in developing countries
Compared to a developed country.
So while following your asset allocation
You can invest a substantial amount abroad
Then you should think about this.
And lastly, if you are doing so,
You have to timely rebalance your portfolio.
Many people will not sell their US holdings because of tax
They think they will save tax and rebalance later.
By doing so you make your portfolio risky.
So if you are fulfilling these three conditions,
That means you are ready to invest in the US.
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Process to buy stocks
Now let's talk about the process to invest in US stocks.
If you want to invest in any US company,
You should have a Demat account
With a US broker.
There are some US brokers who
Have set up offices in India.
But their services or charges
Have never motivated me to open an account with them.
Because their account opening fee
Account maintenance fee
Minimum balance conditions
And most importantly, their brokerage
All of it is very high.
And this is why
Only HNIs or Institutions invested out of India until now.
I didn't want to pay so many charges to invest.
This is why I never considered it.
But finally, there is one solution.
Because there's a solution, I recently planned
That I will allocate some money in US stocks
And for that, I'm using the 'IND money' app.
Which by the way is the sponsor of the video.
I am not talking about it because it's the sponsor,
But because it has been working for a long time
But I didn't start using it sooner because
Charges were levied even while using the app
Which were not in their hand.
These charges have recently become 0
Because of which my interest is back
Otherwise, I would have made a video a long time ago.
Let's understand how IND money works.
This is not a US broker.
This is an Indian start-up
Which has tied up with a US broker.
That broker is Drive Wealth.
And how SEBI governs the brokers in India,
In the US, FINRA governs the brokers.
FINR is Financial Industry Regulatory Authority.
So if you make an account on IND money
In the backend, an account will open on Drive Wealth.
Drive Wealth is a reputed broker in the US.
It is regulated
so don't have to worry about your stock or money.
Let me tell you what the problem was
That I never thought of investing.
Let's talk about the small problem first.
Account opening fee and Account Maintenance.
This is not in rupees that ₹100 or ₹150 is enough.
This was in Dollars.
But it would have been fine if it wasn't for the big problem.
To invest in US stocks
The money in your bank
You will have to send it to your broker.
The broker is in the US.
That means the money is crossing the border.
To do this, the bank charges ₹1500-₹2000 flat.
Whether you want to transfer ₹10 or ₹10,000
You have to bear this flat fee.
You also have to pay 18% GST on this flat fee.
Along with this, you have to pay high brokerage
And high exchange rate.
For example, you sent ₹10,000 to the US
₹2,000 will go to the bank.
When you use the ₹8,000 to buy stocks,
You will have to pay brokerage.
So in order to invest ₹10,000
You have a 20% loss on the first day.
So what did IND Money do?
They removed the bank from the equation.
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When you make an account on IND Money,
A savings bank account opens with it.
So the process is that from your existing bank account,
You will transfer money to your savings account
For which you don't have to pay any charges.
Then the new savings bank account
You will send money from it to the US Drive Wealth account
Because of this process
The ₹1,500-₹2,000 fees your bank would charge earlier
You are not exempt from it.
And because this is a savings account
Your money won't sit idle in it
It will get some savings bank account interest.
The second thing is
Because IND money is not a broker
It cannot charge you a brokerage fee
Neither can it take a account maintenance charge.
If we talk about Drive Wealth,
IND money and Drive Wealth have a deal.
Under which you don't have to pay brokerage to Drive Wealth.
Or any account maintenance fee.
So all in all
The account opening charge is 0
The account maintenance charge is 0
Brokerage is 0
The money banks take to send money from India to the US
It is now zero.
The one charge you need to pay is
The exchange rate.
Your rupee when converted to dollars requires a fee.
The good thing in this
Banks would charge upto 2% fee
But through IND money you don't have to bear high exchange rates.
As an example, I converted ₹5,000
In exchange I got $65.42
In INR this is ₹4906
I've had the chance to make this video since last December
But I wasn't investing that time
Nor was I comfortable with the charges.
Today I finally am.
That is why I am making this video.
Very Important Points to note
You will find the link for IND money in the description.
Do check it out.
Before that here are some important points you should know.
Know the timings for the US market,
In case you feel like trading.
From 14th March to 7th November every year
The US market, according to India time
Starts at 7 pm and ends at 1:30 am.
From 8th November to 13th March
This number increases by 30 minutes.
So it starts at 8 pm and ends at 2 am.
There is something Liberalised Remittance Scheme.
In short LRS.
This basically states that
In a year, you can sell $250,000 outside of India.
That means almost ₹2.25 crores
You can send out of India
In any form, not just investment.
If you are coming back after international travel
This will be recorded in that.
So there is a good limit.
I don't have ₹2.25 crores to invest in the US
But it's still something you should know.
And one more thing you should know
This LRS rule
Doesn't apply to mutual funds.
If you invest in AMC's international mutual funds
Then you can invest not just ₹2 crores but ₹10 crores.
One more major point
Which you probably don't know
Because IND money is not a broker
They don't keep your stocks.
But where are the stocks kept?
India has CDSL and NSDL
That means, in India, a broker doesn't keep your stocks.
But in the US, the broker keeps the stocks.
Now the question comes,
What do you do if the broker runs away with the stock?
For that we have Securities Investor Protection Cooperation.
That is SIPC.
Under this you have an insurance upto $500,000
A maximum of $250,000 on your cash
And the rest as insurance on your securities or stocks.
So worst case scenario,
Even if something happens, this insurance will protect you.
Next point.
And this is a good one.
Because your stocks are being held by your broker
In this case, Drive Wealth.
Drive Wealth gives you a very good facility,
You can buy fractional shares.
Casually Google the Google's stock.
Facebook, Tesla, Amazon
Convert their stock prices to INR
People's portfolios aren't as big as
The price of one stock.
So if a retail investor wants to invest
He can't buy even one share of these companies.
But interestingly,
You can buy the company's 1/10th share
1/50th share and 1/100th share.
If you have ₹100
You will proportionally get that much stock.
Now you will ask me about the dividend.
You will get the dividend in the same proportion.
It works as
A broker maintains a pool of shares of many companies
When he gets an order for a small quantity
Such 1/5th share or 1/10th share
Because the broker doesn't physically need to send the shares
The shares were with him and will remain with him.
So he reserves those fractional shares for you in the backend.
Before I wind up,
All these were the technical aspects,
If you are investing money,
Where should you invest it?
I will try to attempt to give you an answer.
Avoid herd mentality.
Everybody is buying fan companies right now,
It is not necessary you buy them too.
And understand the basic logic that
A company which is already so huge,
My height is 5'11"
Will I double in height in the next 10 years?
Will I become 10 feet tall? Not at all.
But a kid who is 2 feet tall today,
He will surely double his height in the next few years.
Moral of the story is
Growth opportunities are in relatively smaller companies.
Because you and I are retail investors,
Our bets can go extremely strong.
That is why my personal strategy is ETFs.
Do check out IND money
Link is in the description.
What ETFs are and how they work
If you want a separate video on them, tell me in the comments.
But I hope this video was helpful to you.
I will meet you in the next video very soon.
Sorry, there was a delay due to personal reasons.
I'll try to maintain the frequency now.
Bye.
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